Posts Tagged ‘grace’

Blogging plan for this year

January 14, 2005

Here’s a blogging plan for this year:

* More on moral relativism and moral apathy in UBF; how UBF tries to “rise above” the moral struggle just as it tries to “transcend” the need to help the poor; how “preaching the gospel” in UBF becomes an excuse to stop “wasting time” to think about morals and ethics; “that’s not our main ministry.”

* How the leader veneration culture and authoritarian structure of UBF is a natural extension of the works-righteousness belief system of UBF; the two go hand-in-hand.

* The crushing of healthy individuality in UBF; “message” and orchestra “training.”
** “message training”
*** spiritual abuse as “serving” or “helping”
*** CUBF’s “short-term missionaries” sent to oversea conferences mainly to make the “messages” more CUBF-compliant.

* The “cultural differences” rationalization and the assumption that cultures are equally good or equally valid.

* Recent traumatic departures (Patrick Chan and Sola Fide) and what this shows about UBF’s depictions of God and salvation.

* The “Cursed woman’s desire” crucial false teaching.

* “We must not love God less by not neglecting our children”; “giving up our Isaac”; “don’t make children your idols”; thoughts on biblical parenting.

* The sapping of Christian joy in UBF and why people burn out and leave.
** numbers obsession, performance preoccupation and resulting tendency to
settle for mediocrity, just do enough to survive another week.

* How it all comes down to the attitude of “I don’t care, I don’t care.”

* Exclusivism; Barry’s ignorance of Harvest BC and local Presb. church; UBF being “uber-Christianity”.

* UBF and Yong-Gi Cho.

* Signs of the UBF apocalypse: A World Buffet bash for Harriet, a 2ndgen is sent to seminary or Christian college.

* “The Perils of Obedience,” the Milgram Experiment.

* Paulus Eun on UBF and the facts.

* The ministry of numbers and the doctored Wharton Center photo.

* W. Jun, numbers enforcer.

* Stupid UBF defense trick #1: Everything is about subjective feelings; you FELT “hurt” or “offended.”

* Stupid UBF defense trick #2: Jesus did it that way, too.

* All “fruit” is external and of one kind in UBF.

* What’s So Amazing About Grace.

* What feeds abusive behavior? Performance preoccupation (ignorance of grace, numbers obsession), exclusivism (“God bless OUR ministry”, keep and hold and control a recruit at all cost, ties in with perf. preocc.)

* “Africa first needs the Ten Commandments” and http://religion.info/english/articles/article_154.shtml

* and more.

Drowning out the gospel

October 9, 2004

I grew up in Chicago UBF, but it was in the local Baptist church (Edgewater Baptist (*) on Chicago’s north side) where I first heard and believed the gospel as a teenager. If UBF did teach me the gospel, I don’t remember it. Maybe it was drowned out by the gospel of mission, where I first have to become “a normal human being,” get all “A’s”, “have great vision” for my country and for myself, “win the victory over many adverse situations”, and “do many great things” for God. In the Baptist church I heard the gospel of God’s grace; in UBF I heard the gospel of man’s mission. When my parents saw that I loved the Baptist church, they gave me an ultimatum and tore me away from genuine Christian fellowship that was based on the gospel, and they told me to have “gospel faith” without even knowing what the gospel was. Even at UBF Easter conferences I did not hear the gospel. The automaton conference messengers would say many dramatic words about the blood and the cross, and sometimes they would pretend to cry or even genuinely cry, but they did not dare to mention the finished work of Christ on the cross. The gospel they were preaching was meant to “motivate” me to “finish” the work that was already completed.

(*) Erwin Lutzer, now pastor at the Moody Church, was the pastor at Edgewater from 1971-1977.

Superficial lip service to grace

August 18, 2004

Some solid analysis of UBF from a spiritual point of view today by a poster named heart4jc:

Date Posted: 13:21:50 08/17/04 Tue

Author: heart4jc

Subject: Re: To Mitch and J

In reply to: Mitch ‘s message, “Re: To Mitch and J” on 22:20:52 08/16/04 Mon

Like you said, you may be very confused because they seem to be so sincere. I believe that some of them are sincerely misled and others are masters of deceiving. To some degree, they may genuinely want to serve God, but they certainly lack the knowledge of God. With partial truth, they try to control the lives of their members and eventually lead to the way of destruction all together.

Roman 10:2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.

The most horrifying thing in the truth is seeking the partial truth as John McArther said.

Date Posted: 13:46:40 08/17/04 Tue

Author: former

Subject: Re: To Mitch and J

In reply to: heart4jc ‘s message, “Re: To Mitch and J” on 13:21:50 08/17/04 Tue

Yes, I think most UBF people are very sincere. However, their leaders are very cynical. The leaders can preach a message about leadership, sin, accountability, confession and repentance like this one hear: http://www.kille.org/ubf/message.htm and at the same time completely and absolutely totally ignore the implications of such a passage in UBF.

Most people are sincere and misled, most of the top leaders should know better.

Date Posted: 14:11:32 08/17/04 Tue

Author: heart4jc

Subject: Re: To Mitch and J

In reply to: former ‘s message, “Re: To Mitch and J” on 13:46:40 08/17/04 Tue

I read the message, again. It’s so superficial. Having a unworthy attitude…well, the attitude should be rooted in the sense of being unworthy sinners. Just having such attitude itself doesn’t mean anything. We have to have a deep sense of being such an unworthy wretch, helpless and corrupted sinner, which UBF teaching and leaders lack. Based on profound sense of being a sinner, such attitude will be exhibited natually. Not changing your inside, they try to change the outside, like hypocrites.

They don’t teach such dynamics because they don’t know and they didn’t experience it.

When you are in an environment such as UBF where you are told that you must constantly “do something, do something, do something,” and at the same time where your ego is being constantly stroked, and where your leaders are supposed to be seen as beings on a higher plane, grace loses its meaning. UBF, which makes much of “gospel faith,” does not and cannot really understand the gospel of Jesus.

Quotes from John Bunyan

April 30, 2004

“Sin is the dare of God’s justice, the rape of His mercy, the jeer of His patience, the slight of His power, and the contempt of His love.”

“There is a limit at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue.” (Pilgrim’s Progress, pt. II)

“He who bestows his goods upon the poor shall have as much again, and ten times more.”

“[Faith] doth not, as doth unbelief and ignorance, show us all things out of order; putting darkness for light, and bitter for sweet; but will set every thing in its proper place before our eyes; God and Christ shall be with it, the chiefest good, the most lovely and amiable; a heavenly life shall be of greater esteem, and more desirable, than all the treasures of Egypt! Righteousness and sanctification will be the thing after which it will most vehemently press; because it seeth not only death and damnation as the fruits of sin, but sin also in itself, distinct from the punishment belonging to it, a detestable, horrible, and odious thing.”

“Faith receiveth the promise, embraceth it, and comforteth the soul unspeakably with it. Faith is so great an artist in arguing and reasoning with the soul, that it will bring over the hardest heart that it hath to deal with. It will bring to my remembrance at once, both my vileness against God, and his goodness towards me; it will show me, that though I deserve not to breathe in the air, yet that God will have me an heir of glory.”

"Unconditional love" for a price

December 16, 2003

The following is from http://www.reveal.org/library/stories/people/kdegge.html and comes very close to capturing my experience and current view of UBF even though it was applied to the International Church of Christ.


I make the following charges against the principle participants in the formal leadership heirarchy of the International Church of Christ Movement. I want to stress that several of these are realities of which many of the “rank and file” members of the Movement would have no conscious awareness, though their participation in this system, no matter how unwitting, serves to support. However, I do charge the formal leaders with the responsibility for the “intentionality” and perpetuation of these offenses.

I charge the top leaders of the ICC Movement with:

* Mishandling and distorting (“twisting”) the Scriptures and their meanings, with great consistency and persistence, to reinforce their biased doctrines.

* Systematically and deliberately misrepresenting themselves and many of their ends (i.e., goals and purposes) to both grassroots members and outsiders.

* Offering what is called “unconditional love” for a price (i.e., thorough compliance of the would-be “convert”), amounting, in net effect, to spiritual “prostitution.”

* As a result of the practice of marketing this conditional “love,” painting and promoting a practical picture of God as a “Cosmic Pimp.” (This is strong language, but they have done all they have done, including much abusive behavior, with the bold assertion that God has sent them out to do it. How would you express that in an “unvarnished” way?)

* Distorting many facts of their history to dishonestly inflate and embellish their all-important image (another name for this is revisionism, and most tyrants and scoundrels in history have practiced it).

* Damaging, or even destroying, the relationships of family, marriage, and friendship with shocking regularity.

* Maliciously attacking the character and reputation of any “critics” who dare to take persistent stands even to question them, not to mention oppose them.

* Maliciously denying the legitimacy and reality of other devoted Christians and churches.

* Generally exploiting and manipulating people in these ways on a consistent, worldwide basis. (In other words, they may not all be the same in degree, but they are in kind.) And finally,

* Refusing almost all repeated, sincere attempts, for many years, to establish reasonable dialogue re. “mistakes” that have supposedly been made (and continue to be made) by ICC leaders.

The New Covenant That UBFism Forgot

December 14, 2003

“Not that we are competent of ourselves to claim anything as coming from us; our competence is from God, who has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of letter but of spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. Now if the ministry of death, chiseled in letters on stone tablets, came in glory so that the people of Israel could not gaze at Moses’ face because of the glory of his face, a glory now set aside, how much more will the ministry of the Spirit come in glory? For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, much more does the ministry of justification abound in glory! Indeed, what once had glory has lost its glory because of the greater glory; for if what was set aside came through glory, much more has the permanent come in glory!

Since, then, we have such a hope, we act with great boldness, not like Moses, who put a veil over his face to keep the people of Israel from gazing at the end of the glory that was being set aside. But their minds were hardened. Indeed, to this very day, when they hear the reading of the old covenant, that same veil is still there, since only in Christ is it set aside. Indeed, to this very day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their minds; but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And all of us, with unveiled faces, seeing the glory of the Lord as though reflected in a mirror, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another; for this comes from the Lord, the Spirit.”

2 Corinthians 3:5-18 (NRSV)